we have 9, 10-year-old kids who are drinking gallons of energy drinks in order to get an edge. kids when they're 12 or 13 will spend thousands of dollars on unregulated supplements, muscle supplements, diet supplements in order to get bigger and stronger and faster. and then when they get to high school where it's really competitive and winning is really important, they go to the hard stuff. >> tim green was a star defensive end for the atlanta falcons for eight years. since his retirement he's been successful as a broadcaster, attorney and a novelist and among his novels he has written a series of books for young readers on sports. he joins me now on the phone. tim, good morning to you. >> good morning, don, good to be with you. >> good to be with you, too, thanks for coming on. you have children. you've written for kids and coached them. do you worry about young athletes taking the wrong message about performance-enhancing drugs? >> absolutely. whatever young players hear about professional athletes, using performance drugs, the message is loud and clear that it is a part of